Concealed cary permits & reciprocation.



The stories are in the thousands so we will only mention a few here. That be of folks with concealed cary permits getting arrested in an nearby state when there is no reciprocation between them - a common occurrence.

Middletown, Del., Jeremy Preston was pulled over for speeding. He volunteered that his glove compartment held a Glock handgun & immediately showed the officer his Tennessee permit to carry the .40-caliber Glock. He let the officer retrieve the loaded weapon. Still he was arrested on a technicality faceing a felony charge of illegally carrying a concealed deadly weapon and is unable to set foot inside the Peach Bottom nuclear plant in York County, Pa. where he works.

Milwaukee resident, 41-year-old Ursula Jerry, hoping to visit NYC's 911 Memorial may have avoided the TSA searching her purse by taking a the Amtrak train. Still, she was arrested and charges with criminal possession of a weapon for carrying a semi-automatic weapon in her purse that was accidentally exposed. She later pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charge and luckily received no jail time. Amazing for NYC.

Ask Utah gun owner Greg Revell who spent 10 days in jail after he got stranded in New Jersey with an unloaded firearm he had legally checked with his luggage in Salt Lake City. His trip was to take him to Allentown Pa via Minneapolis and Newark, however weather grounded him overnight in Newark. Upon checking in in the morning, he reported his checked pistol to the TSA, and then was arrested by Port Authority police for having a gun in New Jersey without a New Jersey license.

Now here is where things get sneaky and a privacy violation in any case. A headline recently read; Florida gun owners fear Maryland cops as they target them for traffic stops. You may be wondering how & why they do that. How do they know you are a gun owner?

A year ago on New Year's Eve, John Filippidis of Tampa Florida was driving with his family on Interstate 95 when the Maryland Transportation Authority Police pulled over his black Ford Expedition and proceeded to search it while his twins, wife and daughter looked on- separated in the back seats of different police cruisers.

The officers were searching for Mr. Filippidis' Florida-licensed, palm-size Kel-Tec .38 semi-automatic handgun, which he left at home locked in his safe. (Maryland does not recognize handgun permits issued by other states.)

When the search turned up nothing, Mr. Filippidis, 51, was allowed to go and was issued only a speeding warning.

The incident gained national attention. Mr. Filippidis went on multiple radio programs and described in detail how scared and outraged he and his family were. He wondered: How did the police know he was licensed for concealed carry, and what right did they have to search through his personal items on the side of the busy interstate filled with holiday travelers on that 10-degree day?

Meanwhile, John Tonnesen IV of Lake Worth, Florida, was pulled over and arrested after a search of his work truck- by the same officer who stopped Mr. Filippidis. The officer found his .45-caliber Ruger, "which was unloaded and stuffed into a duffle bag far from me" and licensed in the state of Florida. He doesn't believe the stop was coincidental. ("They'll find whatever reason they can to pull you over.")

THE REASON - Cops use license tag scanners in Maryland (and elsewhere) that can easily scan license tags in motion. Florida with it's large number of permit holders is one of their main target vehicles which they can cross check with gun licensing agencys. The department, of course, denies that it targets out-of-state gun owners and that their officers did not do anything wrong.

How police license plate readers can invade your privacy

Today this writer, with a conceal permit can carry a handgun from Florida all the way to Erie, Pa. in his car enroute to Western NY. As an ex-NY'er, I know how things are there so I leave my hand gun home like Mr. Filippidis. Immagine a motor home traveling from the midwest to Vermont for a summer vacation and having to pass trough NY???

Some states, like Texas and Florida, have very flexible reciprocity, recognizing concealed carry permits from as many as 35 other states. At the other end of the spectrum, others such as Illinois, recognize none but their own. This can lead to incidents where otherwise legally carrying permit holders can be ensnared in a legal catch-22 while traveling should they cross into a state that does not recognize their permit.

Current legislation to fix this inequity is underway and would allow the holder of a valid permit to carry a concealed handgun in any state (like your drivers license). Persons carrying as a non-resident in a state would otherwise be bound by whatever laws of the state they are visiting. This would largely end the confusing patchwork of reciprocity agreements that are currently in place across the country.

Under the legislation filed by Congressman Richard Hudson, a North Carolina Republican, gun owners - including those from states no longer mandating training or conceal permits for persons wishing to tote hidden pistols - could be cleared to carry in any public spaces across the country that allow guns. That might be taking things a bit too far after all we wouldn't allow out of state drivers without a license would we?

Below is a great website with a great US map.
Just click on any state to see with whom they have concealed cary reciprocation.


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